AMBER Archive (2002)Subject: Re: Protein jump out, please help
From: Lich Nguyen (nguyenthanhlich_at_yahoo.com) 
Date: Thu Oct 24 2002 - 22:21:40 CDT
 
 
 
 
Dear Amber experts,
 
 I would like to say thank Dr Arvid Soederhaell, Dr
 
Michael G Cooney and Dr Michael Crowley for your help.
 
 I guess my protein moving into the neighbouring
 
periodic image of the box. I am not sure but I don’t
 
know how to check. If it just moves to neighbouring
 
image, is this acceptable? I thought something must be
 
wrong so my protein is moving away? Can I just try
 
using ptraj  to center the coordinates after MD and it
 
will be fine?
 
Does this phenomenon happen often?
 
 Sorry, I haven’t got much knowledge in this field.
 
What do you mean by constant current through the
 
box???
 
 Best wishes,
 
 Lich Nguyen
 
 Bioinformatic Lab
 
Institute of Biotechnology
 
NCST, Hanoi, Vietnam
 
 --- Arvid Soederhaell <arvid_at_fmp-berlin.de> wrote:
 
> Hi Lich 
 
> 
 
> Are you sure that the protein actually leaves the
 
> box? Is it not just
 
> moving into the neighbouring periodic image of the
 
> box? (That does not
 
> really change the results of the simulation, unless
 
> there is a constant
 
> current through the box...)
 
> 
 
> 
 
> 
 
> Arvid Soederhaell
 
> 
 
> 
 
> On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Lich Nguyen wrote:
 
> 
 
> > 
 
> > Dear Amber experts,
 
> > 
 
> > I am new Amber user. I am entering this forum
 
> seeking
 
> > your advice.
 
> > My problem is my protein jumping out of the water
 
> box,
 
> > which is a truncated waterbox216. I use Amber7 and
 
> > force field 99.
 
> > After minimization, my protein is well surrounded
 
> by
 
> > water. I continued to heat up my system to 305K.
 
> This
 
> > is my input file:
 
> > 
 
> > &cntrl
 
> >   imin=0, nmropt=1
 
> >   nstlim=10000, dt=0.001,
 
> >   ntpr=50, ntwr=1000, iwrap=1, ntwx=200,
 
> >   ntf=2, ntc=2, ntb=1,
 
> >   ntt=1,
 
> >  &end
 
> >  &wt type='TEMP0',
 
> istep1=0,istep2=1000,value1=0.0,
 
> >   value2=5.0,    &end
 
> >  &wt type='TEMP0',
 
> istep1=1001,istep2=5000,value1=5.0,
 
> >   value2=100.0,    &end
 
> >  &wt type='TEMP0',
 
> > istep1=5001,istep2=10000,value1=100.0,
 
> >    value2=305.0,    &end
 
> >  &wt type='TAUTP',
 
> istep1=0,istep2=5000,value1=0.5,
 
> >     value2=0.5,    &end
 
> >  &wt type='TAUTP',
 
> > istep1=5001,istep2=10000,value1=0.5,
 
> >      value2=0.1,    &end
 
> >  &wt type='END'  &end
 
> > 
 
> > I haven’t known how to use Moil-view so I make a
 
> pdb
 
> > file from trajectory output file. My protein
 
> already
 
> > jumped out after the first time frame (after
 
> 200fs).
 
> > About 1/4 of my protein is outside waterbox.
 
> > 
 
> > Second, I tried to change some features. This is
 
> my
 
> > new input file:
 
> > 
 
> > &cntrl
 
> >   imin=0, nmropt=1
 
> >   nstlim=50000, dt=0.001,
 
> >   ntpr=50, ntwr=1000, iwrap=1, ntwx=200,
 
> >   ntf=2, ntc=2, ntb=1,
 
> >   ntt=1, nscm=10, tautp=0.1
 
> >  &end
 
> >  &wt type='TEMP0',
 
> istep1=0,istep2=10000,value1=0.0,
 
> >   value2=5.0,    &end
 
> >  &wt type='TEMP0',
 
> > istep1=10001,istep2=25000,value1=5.0,
 
> >   value2=100.0,    &end
 
> >  &wt type='TEMP0',
 
> > istep1=25001,istep2=50000,value1=100.0,
 
> >    value2=305.0,    &end
 
> >  &wt type='END'  &end
 
> > 
 
> > My protein still jump out.
 
> > 
 
> > Third, I tried to heat up my protein using
 
> temperature
 
> > ramp with the temp at the beginning already 305K
 
> and
 
> > everything restrain. Next, I would losen some
 
> restrain
 
> > atoms. 
 
> > 
 
> > # Equilibration of solvent and hydrogens
 
> >  &cntrl
 
> >   imin=0, nstlim=2500, dt=0.002,
 
> >   ntx=1, irest=0, ntr=1,
 
> >   ntpr=50, ntwx=200, ntwr=2500, iwrap=1,
 
> >   ntf=2, ntc=2, tol=0.00000001, ntb=2,
 
> >   tempi=305.0, temp0=305.0,
 
> >   ntt=1, tautp=0.5,
 
> >   pres0=1.0, ntp=1, taup=0.6,
 
> >  &end
 
> > Group input for amino acid restrains
 
> > 50.0
 
> > FIND
 
> > * * M *
 
> > * * B *
 
> > * * S *
 
> > * * 3 *
 
> > SEARCH
 
> > RES 1 468
 
> > END
 
> > Group input for ion/substrate restrains
 
> > 50.0
 
> > RES 469
 
> > END
 
> > END
 
> > 
 
> > Just after this running, I see my protein is
 
> already
 
> > out of the water box. 
 
> > 
 
> > What is happening? Why iwrap=1, small NSCM or
 
> restrain
 
> > almost every atom doesn’t help? My protein always
 
> goes
 
> > out and the water box deformed.
 
> > 
 
> > I greatly appreciate any advice. Please help
 
> > 
 
> > Best wishes,
 
> > Lich Nguyen
 
> > 
 
> > 
 
> > 
 
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