AMBER Archive (2008)Subject: RE: AMBER: Correlation functions from iRED analysis
From: Samuel Genheden (a03samge) (a03samge_at_student.his.se) 
Date: Thu Jun 19 2008 - 08:33:46 CDT
 
 
 
 
Hello, agaim
 
 Sorry to ask so many questions, but this is kind of new for me. Why is it a bad thing that iRED uses cross correlation functions? Is it harder to calculate order parameters from these?
 
 / Samuel
 
 -----Original Message-----
 
From: owner-amber_at_scripps.edu on behalf of Myunggi Yi
 
Sent: Thu 6/19/2008 3:14 PM
 
To: amber_at_scripps.edu
 
Subject: Re: AMBER: Correlation functions from iRED analysis
 
 
 
Don't use ired.
 
iRED uses cross correlation functions.
 
 On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Samuel Genheden (a03samge) <
 
a03samge_at_student.his.se> wrote:
 
 >  Helo,
 
>
 
> I still get identical correlation functions for all the N-H vectors, even
 
> though I do a RMS fit. And I thought one of the advantages of doing an iRED
 
> analysis was that I should not do an RMS fit. Isn't that correct?
 
>
 
> / Samuel
 
>
 
>
 
>
 
> -----Original Message-----
 
> From: owner-amber_at_scripps.edu on behalf of Myunggi Yi
 
> Sent: Thu 6/19/2008 2:52 PM
 
> To: amber_at_scripps.edu
 
> Subject: Re: AMBER: Correlation functions from iRED analysis
 
>
 
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Samuel Genheden (a03samge) <
 
> a03samge_at_student.his.se> wrote:
 
>
 
> >
 
> > Hello, Amber users
 
> >
 
> > I'm studying a protein using MD and would like to calculate correlation
 
> > functions with the iRED method in order to compare order parameters from
 
> > NMR. My protein is 138 residues long and contains 10 prolines, and
 
> therefore
 
> > I have 128 N-H vectors. I'm using Amber10. My input file looks like this:
 
> >
 
> > trajin ../mdcrd5.gz
 
> > trajin ../mdcrd6.gz
 
> > vector v2 :2_at_N ired :2_at_H
 
> > vector v3 :3_at_N ired :3_at_H
 
> > ..
 
> > vector v138 :138_at_N ired :138_at_H
 
> > matrix ired name matired order 2
 
> > analyze matrix matired vecs 128 out ired.vec
 
> > vector v2 :2_at_N corrired :2_at_H order 2 modes ired.vec beg 1 end 128 npair
 
> 1
 
> > vector v3 :3_at_N corrired :3_at_H order 2 modes ired.vec beg 1 end 128 npair
 
> 2
 
> > ..
 
> > vector v138 :138_at_N corrired :138_at_H order 2 modes ired.vec beg 1 end 128
 
> > npair 128
 
> > analyze timecorr vec1 v2 tstep 10.0 tcorr 10000 out Ired/v2.out
 
> > analyze timecorr vec1 v3 tstep 10.0 tcorr 10000 out Ired/v3.out
 
> > ..
 
> > analyze timecorr vec1 v138 tstep 10.0 tcorr 10000 out Ired/v138.out
 
> >
 
> > (I've have also tried to break it up in two ptraj scripts, since the
 
> manual
 
> > is a little bit vague if this is neccessary.) The problem is that all the
 
> > correlation functions calculated, v2.out, v3.out, .. v138.out is the
 
> same,
 
> > i.e. all the output files contains the same numbers. What am I doing
 
> wrong?
 
> > I can hardly believe that all the correlation functions should be
 
> identical.
 
> >
 
> > And when I'm at writing - what is the best way to obtain the order
 
> > parameters from the correlation functions?
 
> >
 
>
 
> To get the generalized order parameters, you need to calculate
 
> auto-correlation functions after "rms fitting".
 
> Then fit your graph with single or double exponential functions.
 
> The plateau corresponds to the S^2.
 
>
 
> >
 
> > Best regards, Samuel
 
> >
 
>
 
>
 
>
 
> --
 
> Best wishes,
 
>
 
> Myunggi Yi PhD
 
> ==================================
 
> KLB 419
 
> Institute of Molecular Biophysics
 
> Florida State University
 
> Tallahassee, FL 32306
 
>
 
> Office: (850) 645-1334
 
> http://www.scs.fsu.edu/~myunggi <http://www.scs.fsu.edu/%7Emyunggi>
 
>
 
>
 
 
-- 
Best wishes,
Myunggi Yi PhD
==================================
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Florida State University
Tallahassee, FL 32306
 Office: (850) 645-1334
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