AMBER Archive (2007)Subject: Re: AMBER: CONFIGURATION FILE FOR OXALATE C2O4^2-
From: Jiri Sponer (sponer_at_ncbr.chemi.muni.cz) 
Date: Tue Sep 18 2007 - 03:11:19 CDT
 
 
 
 
I agree with Ilyas:
 
 Mulliken charges are essentially useless, being extremely 
 
method and basis set dependent. (Changing marginally one of the inner
 
s basis function exponent on Mg2+ (fully hydrated and bound to a ligand)
 
can change the calculated Mulliken value on Mg by 0.3 e, despite that
 
this change of AO does not change any real property of the system
 
by even 0.001 %....
 
 You can use constraints, if you need to impose some geometry
 
restrictions. Gaussian is however the best code for geometry optimizations. 
 
 Jiri
 
 s orbital exponent on Mg2+ 
 
> Dear Eduardo,
 
> 
 
> I wonder why you wanted to get the Mulliken charges. Did you try to follow
 
> the resp protocol to get the RESP charges?
 
> 
 
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007, Eduardo Mendez wrote:
 
> 
 
> > As Shakespeare said sometime in a dream of mine"Whats on an
 
> > approximation, whatever else its basis set it would smell as sweet (he
 
> > may have said that about aromatic compounds)"
 
> >
 
> > I tried a different program and got Mulliken charges, the question
 
> > however remains open, as
 
> > I do not know to what degree my calculations will be accurate. If anyone
 
> > knows something about
 
> > the mischievous Oxalate let me know.
 
> >
 
> > Eduardo
 
> > Eduardo Mendez wrote:
 
> > > Greetings Amber users
 
> > >
 
> > > I was wondering if anyone could share the amber parameter files for
 
> > > oxalate.  I did gaussian calculations to get the mulliken charges,
 
> > > however, to my dismay, gaussian gives me an isomer, which
 
> > > is not in the planar conformation one would expect it to be :(
 
> > > Any idea were can I find a library site other than
 
> > > http://pharmacy.man.ac.uk/amber/   ???
 
> > >
 
> > > Thanks in advance
 
> > >
 
> > > eduardo
 
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