AMBER Archive (2007)Subject: RE: AMBER: BUG?  Does TLEAP understand SPC/E water?
From: Ross Walker (ross_at_rosswalker.co.uk) 
Date: Fri Jun 01 2007 - 13:23:35 CDT
 
 
 
 
Dear David,
 
 You need to do the following:
 
 HOH=SPC
 
WAT=SPC
 
loadamberparams frcmod.spce
 
 See Page 29 of the Amber 9 manual.
 
 All the best
 
Ross
 
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 > -----Original Message-----
 
> From: owner-amber_at_scripps.edu 
 
> [mailto:owner-amber_at_scripps.edu] On Behalf Of David Cerutti
 
> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 10:35
 
> To: amber_at_scripps.edu
 
> Subject: AMBER: BUG? Does TLEAP understand SPC/E water?
 
> 
 
> Hello,
 
> 
 
>     I'm now being very careful about the topology files 
 
> generated by TLEAP 
 
> because the results I'm getting don't match some of those reported by 
 
> others.
 
> 
 
>     When I change a leaprc file to reference the SPC water in 
 
> solvents.lib 
 
> rather that TIP3P, by adding the following lines:
 
> 
 
> HOH = SPC
 
> WAT = SPC
 
> 
 
> rather than "HOH = TP3" / "WAT = TP3" as the default seems to 
 
> be, it seems 
 
> that this should direct TLEAP to look in the same 
 
> solvents.lib file where 
 
> it finds the TIP3P parameters and find instead the SPC/E 
 
> parameters and 
 
> put those in the topology wherever it finds water in the simulation.
 
> 
 
>     The part I'm scratching my head about is that it DOES obtain the 
 
> correct charges (I've had to figure out what AMBER's unit 
 
> conventions are 
 
> in that topology file, but I've verified that generating the 
 
> topology with 
 
> "WAT = SPC" gives the charges I'd expect for SPC/E, and they 
 
> are different 
 
> that those you get with "WAT = TP3").  But, TLEAP still 
 
> inserts the TIP3P
 
> parameters for Lennard Jones A and B coefficients, as well as bond 
 
> lengths--the TIP3P OH bond length is 0.9572, and this is 
 
> still what I see 
 
> for the SPC/E topology, even though the OH bond length should 
 
> be 1.0000.
 
> 
 
>     I found this when I was trying to convert my own PDB, a 
 
> box of 1728 
 
> water molecules, into a topology and coordinate files.  
 
> However, when I 
 
> used a "solvateBox x SPCBOX 14.0" command in another study to 
 
> solvate a 
 
> protein in SPC/E water, I find that I actually obtained similar 
 
> results--the charges in the topology were correct, but the 
 
> bond lengths 
 
> remained those of TIP3P and the Lennard-Jones A and B 
 
> coefficients were 
 
> also those of TIP3P, not SPC/E.
 
> 
 
>     It seems that there is a major problem somewhere.  Either 
 
> I didn't know 
 
> about some subtle, additional command that I needed to insert 
 
> to include 
 
> the rest of SPC/E water in the setup, in which case TLEAP 
 
> needs to be made 
 
> more user-friendly, or there is some bug in TLEAP that makes 
 
> it think that 
 
> SPC/E water has the same geometry and Lennard-Jones 
 
> parameters as TIP3P (I 
 
> checked the solvents.lib file, and it has the correct geometry and LJ 
 
> parameters for both TIP3P and SPC/E).
 
> 
 
>     The result is the same whether I use TLEAP from Amber8 or Amber9.
 
> 
 
> Please help!
 
> 
 
> Dave
 
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