AMBER Archive (2007)Subject: AMBER: Deriving constraint forces on water molecules based on SETTLE moves
From: David Cerutti (dcerutti_at_mccammon.ucsd.edu) 
Date: Wed Feb 14 2007 - 18:08:45 CST
 
 
 
 
Hello again,
 
     I've been making some headway on this constraint virial problem, and I 
 
now know that my error involves the computation of constraint forces for 
 
SETTLE'd water molecules.
 
     Does anyone know where I can find formula that tell you the forces to 
 
apply along each of the three constrained bonds to reproduce the 
 
accelerations that the SETTLE routine applies to the water?  The problem 
 
can be phrased fairly simply: SETTLE is considered to have applied forces 
 
along each of the constrained bonds to return the molecule to its original 
 
shape after a Verlet-integration (half) step deformed the water molecule 
 
slightly.  But, at the end of the SETTLE calculation, all we have are the 
 
new velocities, from which we derive the net accelerations and thus the 
 
net forces on each atom.  Ww must account for these force vectors with a 
 
unique set of forces acting along each of the bonds.  Three constrained 
 
bonds, three atoms and one net force on each atom resulting from the 
 
SETTLE calculation.
 
     But, when I try to write down these equations and then solve for the 
 
magnitude of the force along each bond, I run into all sorts of trouble 
 
and I can't figure out why.  It would seem that the system is 
 
over-determined; I can write nine different equations relating each of the 
 
three components of the three net atomic forces computed by SETTLE to two 
 
other terms involving the forces applied along each of the bonds ending at 
 
each of the three atoms.  I can pick three of the equations and solve them 
 
for the magnitude of the force along each bond, but for some resaon I get 
 
different results depending on which three equations I pick--they don't 
 
even seem to be self-consist when I look closely at the equations.
 
     But, at the same time, it seems that there are three unknowns (the 
 
magnitudes of the forces along each bond) and three knowns (the net force 
 
on each atom applied by SETTLE) so there should be a fairly concise 
 
solution to these equations...
 
 Thanks!
 
 Dave
 
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