AMBER Archive (2007)Subject: AMBER: I need some constant pressure MD help
From: David Cerutti (dcerutti_at_mccammon.ucsd.edu) 
Date: Tue Jan 30 2007 - 22:39:06 CST
 
 
 
 
Hello,
 
     A co-worker and I have been struggling to implement a simple molecular 
 
dynamics package in order to train a new type of classical water models. 
 
We have implemented SETTLE, a very fast real-space non-bonded force 
 
computation, support for many different charge and parameter sets (as 
 
well as different potentials), and two working thermostats (Nose-Hoover 
 
and Berendsen).  There is also a Nose-Hoover thermo-barostat in place 
 
which works to properly regulate the system volume in response to the 
 
user-supplied external pressure (1 bar) in the ideal gas case when the 
 
virials have no role.
 
    However, when I try to include a significant virial for something like 
 
liquid water, the system blows up on me.  I'm trying to compare to AMBER 
 
to see what's going wrong, but getting information out of a code that only 
 
does PME-based non-bonded forces for periodic systems and applying it to a 
 
code that currently works on periodic systems but does not yet include 
 
Ewald is painful.
 
    Still, I've made some progress with comparing my results to AMBER.  I 
 
have some short questions that hopefully will keep me on the right track.
 
 1.) What are the formats of the information in the "-o mdout" file?  They 
 
seem pretty self-explanatory, except for:
 
 PRESSURE:           kilopascals?
 
All energy units:   kcal? (the VDWAALS term certainly is given in kcal)
 
VIRIAL:             kcal?
 
 2.) I tried a case where I created a 216-water system in an appropriate 
 
periodic box.  Using a 9A cutoff, I noted that the VDWAALS energy I 
 
obtained differed from AMBER's by about 1% (I'm not ready to compare 
 
electrostatics in periodic systems yet).  I tried a similar, 1728-water 
 
system with an 18A cutoff and found that the energies were similar to 
 
within 0.15%.  What could be going on here?  Is there also an Ewald 
 
treatment of long-range LJ interactions that I'm missing?  Please note 
 
that as of right now my code only implements real-space interactions.
 
 3.) I assumed that the energies matched up sufficiently and compared the 
 
virials.  To do this, I stripped the system of all charges so that only 
 
VDWAALS interactions were taking place.  In two different cases 
 
(different sizes of water boxes, with different numbers of particles 
 
charge-free water particles), I found that my virial computation was 
 
almost exactly twice what AMBER's was: twice that value to within 0.25%. 
 
I've tried looking through the sander code, but can anyone state 
 
succinctly what all is going into the "VIRIAL = ###" number reported in 
 
the "-o mdout" file?  I compute the atomic virial using the equation given 
 
in the DL-POLY 3 manual, sum (-r_ij dot f_ij).  I also compute a 
 
constraint virial, also by the formula given in the DL-POLY 3 manual, but 
 
it seems to be very small compared to the atomic virial.
 
 Thanks for your help!  This is the last project I intend to do as a grad 
 
student.  If it succeeds, I'm hoping it will really push the envelope of 
 
conventional, fixed-charge MD simulations.
 
 Dave
 
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