AMBER Archive (2006)

Subject: AMBER: Difference in results for TI calculation

From: brmeher_at_iitg.ernet.in
Date: Mon May 29 2006 - 08:53:41 CDT


<meta name="GENERATOR" content="OpenOffice.org 1.0.2 (Linux)" /><style> <!-- @page { margin: 2cm } P { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } --> </style> <p style="margin-bottom: 0.5cm;">Dear Dr. Case,<br />I have read your tutorial on thermodynamic integration (TI) and I was performing the same calculation (Toluene---> nothing) in the tutorial given. But unfortunately I got some differnt results as compared to the tutorial. <br /><br />First of all I created the  prmtop.coul.vac and prmcrd.coul.vac files from Xleap. Then I used these files to run for a charging free energy calculation in vaccum and interestingly I got almost same result of DV/DL (-0.4625) compared to tutorial DV/DL ( -0.4646). Then I created the prmtop.coul.wat and prmcrd.coul.wat files for the charging free energy calculation in water. I used the same input files as given in the tutorial for both equilibration and production part with three different values of clambda (0.11270, 0.5 & 0.88729) and finally I got the more or less same results as follows:<br /><br /><table style="width: 100%;" border="1"><tbody><tr><td>clambda<br /></td><td>DV/DL from my calculation<br /></td><td>DV/DL from tutorial<br /></td></tr><tr><td>0.11270<br /></td><td><meta http-equiv="CONTENT-TYPE" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /><title /><meta name="GENERATOR" content="OpenOffice.org 1.0.2 (Linux)" /><style> <!-- @page { margin: 2cm } P { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } --> </style> <p style="margin-bottom: 0.5cm;">4.4439 +/- 2.1355</p> </td><td><meta http-equiv="CONTENT-TYPE" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /><title /><meta name="GENERATOR" content="OpenOffice.org 1.0.2 (Linux)" /><style> <!-- @page { margin: 2cm } P { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } --> </style> <p style="margin-bottom: 0.5cm;">4.13 +/- 2.26</p> </td></tr><tr><td>0.5<br /></td><td><meta http-equiv="CONTENT-TYPE" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /><title /><meta name="GENERATOR" content="OpenOffice.org 1.0.2 (Linux)" /><style> <!-- @page { margin: 2cm } P { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } --> </style> <p style="margin-bottom: 0.5cm;">1.5345 +/- 1.7721</p> </td><td><meta http-equiv="CONTENT-TYPE" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /><title /><meta name="GENERATOR" content="OpenOffice.org 1.0.2 (Linux)" /><style> <!-- @page { margin: 2cm } P { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } --> </style> <p style="margin-bottom: 0.5cm;">1.52 +/- 1.80</p> </td></tr><tr><td>0.88729<br /></td><td><meta http-equiv="CONTENT-TYPE" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /><title /><meta name="GENERATOR" content="OpenOffice.org 1.0.2 (Linux)" /><style> <!-- @page { margin: 2cm } P { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } --> </style> <p style="margin-bottom: 0.5cm;">-0.3335 +/- 1.42</p> </td><td><meta http-equiv="CONTENT-TYPE" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /><title /><meta name="GENERATOR" content="OpenOffice.org 1.0.2 (Linux)" /><style> <!-- @page { margin: 2cm } P { margin-bottom: 0.21cm } --> </style> <p style="margin-bottom: 0.5cm;">-0.26 +/- 1.49</p> </td></tr></tbody></table><br /><br />So my question is that if I am using the same input as per the tutorial and also the same prmtop & prmcrd files , why this difference in results is coming??<br /><br /><br /> </p> <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Secondly I also tried for the Disappearing free energy calculation for both  in vaccum and in water. For vaccum part I got the DV/DL  of  -1.8537 . the input for the vaccum is as follows:<br /><br />Here is the input file:<br />                                                                                                                             <br />neutralize toluene<br /> &cntrl<br /> ntr=0,<br /> nstlim =100000, nscm=2000, ntave=10000,<br /> ntx=5, irest=1, ntb=0, ntpr=200,<br /> ntp=0, taup=2.0,<br /> dt=0.001, nrespa=2,<br /> ntt=1, temp0=300., tautp=2.0,<br /> ntc=2, ntf=2, tol=0.000001,<br /> ntwr = 10000, ntwx=0,<br /> icfe=1, klambda=4,<br /> cut=9.0,<br />&end<br /><br /><br />For disappearing free energy calculation in water part I equilibrated the system for each individual values of clambda and then run for the production for the same value of clambda. I used five values of <i>clambda</i> from 0.05, 0.15,0.25, 0.35 and 0.45 with klambda =4. Here is my result which is far different from the results of your tutorial.<br /><br /><table style="width: 100%;" border="1"><tbody><tr><td>clambda<br /></td><td>DV/DL from my calculation<br /></td></tr><tr><td>0.05<br /></td><td>13.2628<br /></td></tr><tr><td>0.15<br /></td><td>4.1287<br /></td></tr><tr><td>0.25<br /></td><td>1.3485<br /></td></tr><tr><td>0.35<br /></td><td>0.0854<br /></td></tr><tr><td>0.45<br /></td><td>-0.0716<br /></td></tr></tbody></table></p><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Here is an  input file for an example for clambda = 0.05<br />                                                                                                                             <br />neutralize toluene<br />&cntrl<br /> ntr=0,<br /> nstlim =100000, nscm=2000, ntave=5000,<br /> ntx=7, irest=1, ntb=1, ntpr=100,<br /> ntp=0, taup=2.0,<br /> dt=0.001, nrespa=2,<br /> ntt=0, temp0 = 300., tautp=2.0,<br /> ntc=2, ntf=2, tol=0.000001,<br /> ntwr = 10000, ntwx=0,<br /> icfe=1, clambda=0.05, klambda=4,<br /> cut=9.0,<br />&end<br /><br /></p><p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><br />I am using the AMBER-8 version in a Linux system. <br />So can you  please point out the reason of differnce in results and also the mistake.<br /><br />With regards<br />Biswa Ranjan Meher<br /><br /><br /><br /> </p> <br /><br /><hr />This email was sent from IIT Guwahati Webmail.If you are not .<br /> "the intended recipient, please contact the sender by email and delete all copies; your cooperation in this regard is appreciated. 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